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Note to other bloggers: If you’ve noticed unexpected trackback pings from MarsBlog, it’s because I’ve been fixing the categorization of some of my old Blogger-era entries…until MT actually pinged a couple of links, it didn’t occur to me that it would harvest trackbacks from year-old posts.

As you were…

Bob Walker On the Moon-Mars Plan

Robert Walker: Space Industry Must Get Public, Congress ‘Buy-In’ of New Space Vision

Walker said for the vision to become reality, “there has to be a public acceptance and a congressional buy-in.” He urged the broad space community not to divide and protect efforts that won’t move the new space agenda forward. There will be winners and losers in implementing a sharply focused plan, he said.

But if focus is lost, “it will be another 20 or 30 years before another President will step out to make a statement again,” Walker said.

“I really believe that if we can show that this program will create the base of knowledge off which we will build leadership, off which we will build new products, off which we will build economic dominance?then we?ve got a chance of having a program that?s not just a flash-in-the-pan, but is a program capable of being sustained for 20 or 30 years,” Walker said.

Oh, Wow…

How it might have been: Man Conquers Space.

And no, this isn’t the Colliers Magazine series, but an “amateur” (!) film which takes that vision as the basis of an alternate history. Just the teaser is breathtaking — I wonder what the full movie will be like.

Bob Park Ain’t Gonna Like This

Belligerent Bunny’s Bad Movie Shrine (BMS) reviews a science fiction film (sort of) that features manned missions to the moon, terraforming, and space tourism, all while making a mockery of space science as the end-all-be-all of space exploration.

(Warning: may not be work-safe.)

Tyson on the Moon-Mars Plan

Neil deGrasse Tyson shares his views on the Moon-Mars plan.

Overall, his views seem to represent a sensible cross-section of the space community’s interests. He’s for manned and robotic missions, he wants to go to the Moon and Mars, he expects that the new NASA vision can be carried out on a reasonable budget, he quite handily defends spending money on space, and explains the purpose and goals of the new policy in a clear, articulate, approachable way.

He also tosses out an amusing — and intriguing — idea for how to keep the public interested:

The astronaut corps that is slated to go to Mars could be selected as teenagers, then 10 years out they’ll be the right age for landing on Mars.

I can guarantee you those teenagers would be written about in every teen magazine that’s out there. They’ll be heroes in the same way the Mercury seven were heroes to their generation. They’re going to supplant rock stars as who are the coolest people to be in society.

And now we have women astronauts, and astronauts of color, something that was unthinkable in the sixties. So there’s a previously disenfranchised subset of Americans who will want to become scientists and engineers.

It seems absurd or at least astonishing at first glance, but on reflection, he certainly has a point…just consider the possibilities of a “Lunar Idol” nationwide astronaut-candidate competition. I don’t know if interest could be sustained on this basis for ten years, as he suggests, but it could certainly work for 3-4 years.

He also has promising things to say about space commercialization (even though the question was phrased in a nutty way):

I like to take a broader view. Early pilot-engineers, who invented or designed their own airplanes, were supported by the government in the form of a guaranteed load of airmail. That enabled these people to be more and more innovative, to be more competitive to try and get the government contract. What emerged from this were airplanes that no longer required the government support because they could then fly paying passengers.

In developing all the technology necessary to go to Mars, stuff is going to get invented. Look at the government investment in the Global Positioning System (GPS). It was initially a military utility, but now there are commercial GPS receivers in cars and even in wristwatches.

These are whole industries that have been spawned and given unto private enterprise to then make money and create jobs.

If it means we can one day get into space so cheaply that you can set up a hotel, fine, let it be so. If it’s a hotel with a zero-g theme park, fine. Business will go wherever it thinks it can make a buck. Right now space is kind of expensive, so only governments can do it.

Note that that last sentence doesn’t say that space has to be expensive, just that it currently is.

Interesting. I can see why this guy was picked for the Commission.

Battle of the Bobs

Everyone else has been linking to this, so why not:

Deja Vu

Writing in Florida Today, Dwayne A. Day makes the same criticisms of Alex Roland as I did… though, admittedly, in a more straightforward and less snarky way.

[via Mark Whittington]

Compare and Contrast

European Parliament resolution on the action plan for implementing the European space policy
vs.
President Bush’s Vision for U.S. Space Exploration.

Scouting, Not Science, On the Moon

NASA’s Moon-Mars Plans Take Shape

As analysts had expected, a stark financial and resource refocusing is underway at NASA in which robotic efforts will be planned less for pure science and more for supporting future human spaceflight.

The first mission to the Moon will likely be an orbiter that generates NASA’s first digital map of the pockmarked world, officials said Wednesday. It will be a reconnaissance craft designed to help prepare for a return of astronauts as early as 2015, as envisioned last month by President George W. Bush.

The second new lunar foray, in 2009, will be with a robotic lander whose goals are not yet clear.
“These missions will not be driven by science,” said Ed Weiler, associate administrator for the NASA’s Office of Space Science. “They will be driven by preparations for human landings.”

Music to my ears.

Dig It

Spirit Rover Drills ‘First Planned Hole’ in Martian Rock